18 Oct 2006
Posted by J. Angelo Racoma as Blogs and blogging, Business, E-Commerce, netrepreneurship, security, society
One of the benefits of blogging for advocacy is the attention one gets from the movers and shakers. My being part of the PayPal for the Philippines campaign has caught the attention of execs in the electronic payments industry, as well as business owners who are into e-commerce (either planning to start selling online, or already have ongoing e-commerce setups). In fact, whenever I attend EBs and blogger get-togethers I’m usually referred to as the PayPal guy. It’s good to be identified with something.
I had dinner—and a few beers—with the top honchos of YES Payments last night to discuss the possibility of their offering P2P e-payment facilities in the country. This is my second meeting with them, so far, and it was great that we were able to exchange ideas freely. I related the needs of the freelance/problogger/developer community in the country, and they told us about the issues that e-payment providers continually face in the line of their doing business.
The foremost concerns of any business doing e-payments are security and fraud. When money is involved, there is always the chance of one party defrauding another party, or one party defrauding the system itself. So there is always risk. And the issue is determining which party bears the risk, for the system to work. In some cases, it’s the seller that bears the risk. In some, it’s the operator of the e-payment facility.
Fraud can be perpetrated a number of ways.
There are even more ways—don’t get any ideas from me! The point is that there are loopholes that can be exploited. So there the system has to consider the trust factor.
For the most part, dealing with the risk is a big headache to the e-payment facility because of regulatory requirements. I never realized that the banking system asks so much of these companies—there are big guarantees, there are limitations, and there are requirements for compliance with several laws, both local and international. And even the card companies like Mastercard and Visa require a lot, such as security of transactions, regular auditing and subscription costs—something in the range of $15,000 per year (or is it monthly?), which, while affordable to big companies, can be a steep amount for small players.
On top of these risks, there is one difficulty faced by e-payment businesses particularly in countries like the Philippines without a strong judicial system. Fraud is not so difficult to detect. YES cites cases where fraudulent transactions were flagged, but allowed to push through so the perpetrators can be caught in the act. The problem is once the criminals were caught, the inefficient and corrupt judicial system was not capable of warranting adequate punishment.
Hence, perpetrators can expect be let go with just a slap on the wrist. I can also imagine cases where either the judges or the police personnel could be bribed.
We come back to the issue of risk. E-payment facilities may not be so keen on setting up shop here because they know the risk of fraud is high. Even worse, the risk of fraud not being properly addressed by the law is even a bigger threat. Fraud can be minimized if the legal system is good enough to be a deterrent to people planning to commit crime. But if one knows the system can be gamed, then people will go lie, cheat and steal their way to getting a fast buck.
So which came first? The chicken or the egg? (Sorry for using a cliché—it sucks, I know.)
I earlier made a bold claim that having good e-payment facilities here in the country—particularly PayPal—would be beneficial to the Philippine economy. However, it turns out that most players (probably PayPal included) would only be open to servicing the country if they can be mitigate or minimize the risks of fraud.
Perhaps for large players like PayPal it’s a bit easier. For small players, it could be a challenge.
YES is considering opening a facility for P2P transactions for the purpose of business and commerce. While they don’t have such a system in place right now, they do have YES Payments for SMEs and YES Pinoy for remittance. None of these services can be used by individuals like myself for receiving payments for goods or services rendered, though. YES Payments works for businesses (well, this does not preclude individuals or groups of individuals from registering as a business). YES Pinoy, meanwhile works for P2P transactions between people with existing relationships—you have to prove you’re related to the person sending money, whether he/she is a family member, relative or friend.
I had been mentioning existing services that could do P2P, like Xoom, which fellow problogger Abe has been recommending, and which I’ve also been using. YES is positioning itself as a strong player in the country because of its presence and support. They actually do have an office here, and they do accept support calls. I think that’s an advantage. I actually tried calling Xoom support once thru their 1-800 number, but since they’re based in California, their office hours are quite off when calling from the Philippines.
If—and once—YES gets their planned P2P service up and running anytime soon, would there be people willing to be part of a test group? Just tell me, so we can make the necessary arrangements.
As for PayPal for the Philippines, it’s a continuing advocacy. PayPal may have already set up here, but it’s still very limited. We can only use the service to pay or send money online, and not receive (not even to load up the account). We’re still pushing for full functionality. If you have not yet signed up, please do so. We would also appreciate any support (such as linking to us and/or displaying our banners).
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9 Responses
Filipina in Cyberspace » PayPal finally in the Philippines
October 19th, 2006 at 9:12 pm
1[...] I agree with Angelo’s blog about how things gets complicated when it comes to electronic payment specially in Philippines settings that’s maybe the reason why PayPal doing baby steps. But, you could still sign up (please do) for a complete PayPal services in the Philippines in the banner below. [...]
Corsarius
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:25 pm
2test group? j, count me in! go-ogle team support
ia
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:45 pm
3Sounds like there could be freebies. Kidding. “Mee too!”
Vulnerability in Xoom’s Password Retrieval Procedure? » The J Spot
October 23rd, 2006 at 4:15 pm
4[...] After reading my post about online payment systems not being as easy to implement as we think, Marhgil earlier emailed me about how he discovered Xoom accounts are potentially vulnerable to cracking. He details in his blog how a user’s password can easily be changed if a malicious hacker (or “cracker” in this case) correctly figures out three things: the user’s email address, bank account number and ZIP code. [...]
smith
December 20th, 2006 at 11:07 pm
5Hey Guys, You can check this website for ON LINE PAYMENT SERVICES, http://www.mypayswitch.com office is located here in the philippines, 18F Security bank Ayala Ave. Makati
look for Smith parreno 8912755/09108826877
Technqx
January 8th, 2007 at 12:09 pm
6Yeah Paypal is now available in the Philippines but you can only use it for shopping online, you won’t be able to receive funds if you’re selling on eBay. There is no definite time yet when are they going to make PayPal here fully functional (sending & receive).
Wanna share it with you guys. After long research, I got a solutions and it’s guaranteed working cuz I got mine already.
Its guaranteed that you will be verified by PayPal allowing you to receive and send money.
I haven’t been to the US yet and I was able to get a verified PayPal Account associating my US Bank Account.
STEPS:
1. Open a US Bank Account (even you’re not from the US. Use your Philippine address, that’s cool.
2. Open a US PayPal account – using any US address – don’t worry PayPal won’t verify your address – it’s the bank account that will be verified.
3. Add your newly-opened US Bank Account to your US PayPal Account.
4. PayPal will then deposit small amounts to that bank account ( that should appear on your bank transaction history within 2-3 days). You will have internet banking facilities with that account.
5. Enter to your PayPal the exact amounts they have deposited to your bank.
6. There you go. You are now a verified US PayPal account holder having the privileges of receiving and sending money online.
More information: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZtechnqxQQhtZ-1
Khalil
May 14th, 2007 at 9:55 pm
7http://www.petitiononline.com/paypalph/petition.html
Guys! Let’s start the campaign for full functionality of Paypal Philippines
emurhfkq
June 22nd, 2007 at 12:53 am
8people are stranger
Mary Grace B. Orsonal
November 17th, 2007 at 4:11 pm
9Can i use paypal here in the philippines to pay required registration fee in the uS where will i send the money or can i use my bank account in paying? Please email me. Thanks.
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